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So wait..; are there 3 Cells?
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SirParagon	Sep 2 2011, 12:46 AM Post #31
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	I've always viewed this timeline shenanigans as an unnecessary clusterfrack, it feels so messy to watch (if that even makes sense). So there is an infinite number of Cells/Androids, one for each arbitrary segment in time. Why aren't there an infinite number of Cells coming back in time to find 17/18? I assume most time-lines resulted in Cell stealing Trunks' time machine. Perhaps all the time-lines flow at exactly the same pace? Regardless, I'm just surprised the universe didn't implode upon Trunks going back. Trunks somehow defeated the androids Edited by SirParagon, Sep 2 2011, 01:35 AM.
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Seruphim	Sep 2 2011, 12:47 AM Post #32
Cell's Angel Posts: 3,242 Group: Goddess Member #867 Joined: November 15, 2005 Country United States Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome	NeoSSayajin Sep 2 2011, 12:41 AM Seruphim Sep 2 2011, 12:35 AM wait, why does Trunks' shutting down 17 and 18 mean that there must be a timeline where Trunks is not present at the Cell Games? I'm referring to the line that starts with 'the truth is, trunks...' Because before returning to tell the Z Fighters of Timeline 4 that he deactivated the Androids (and later fight in the Cell Games) Cell from that timeline ambushed him, since this was a Pre-Rosat Trunks he had no chances to defeat Imperfect Cell and he was killed. but how do we know Cell ambushed him then? Or was it confirmed by AT that there was a 4th timeline and he gave this explanation or something? Cause otherwise it just seems speculative..



NeoSSayajin	Sep 2 2011, 12:49 AM Post #33
Posts: 1,085 Group: Member Member #5,734 Joined: February 15, 2011 Country Argentina What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Mirai Trunks Sep 2 2011, 12:46 AM My question is, when did Trunks (T3) travel to Timeline 4? The only time he saw the blueprints was when he was destroying Gero's lab and it was shown that he didn't go back after then. Maybe that Trunks decided not to wait and went back to his own timeline instead of waiting for Goku to wake up and mention the RoSaT The Present Trunks from Timeline 1 decided to hand the blueprints to Bulma, who then created the remote control for shooting down the Androids, she then gave it to Krillin, etc, etc. Maybe the Trunks from Timeline 3 lived the same life than Present Timeline Trunks, but he decided to go back to his time as soon as he found the blueprints...



NeoSSayajin	Sep 2 2011, 12:51 AM Post #34
Posts: 1,085 Group: Member Member #5,734 Joined: February 15, 2011 Country Argentina What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Seruphim Sep 2 2011, 12:47 AM NeoSSayajin Sep 2 2011, 12:41 AM Seruphim Sep 2 2011, 12:35 AM wait, why does Trunks' shutting down 17 and 18 mean that there must be a timeline where Trunks is not present at the Cell Games? I'm referring to the line that starts with 'the truth is, trunks...' Because before returning to tell the Z Fighters of Timeline 4 that he deactivated the Androids (and later fight in the Cell Games) Cell from that timeline ambushed him, since this was a Pre-Rosat Trunks he had no chances to defeat Imperfect Cell and he was killed. but how do we know Cell ambushed him then? Or was it confirmed by AT that there was a 4th timeline and he gave this explanation or something? Cause otherwise it just seems speculative.. In episode 143 Cell tells Kamiccolo how did he came from his time, he ambushed Trunks who was returning to that time, and Trunks wasnt a MSSJ, he was still an Unmastered SSJ, this means that he deactivated the Androids, since at that point he was unable to beat them. Cell told Kamiccolo that he went back in time because he couldnt find the Androids.



Seruphim	Sep 2 2011, 01:12 AM Post #35
Cell's Angel Posts: 3,242 Group: Goddess Member #867 Joined: November 15, 2005 Country United States Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome	NeoSSayajin Sep 2 2011, 12:51 AM Seruphim Sep 2 2011, 12:47 AM NeoSSayajin Sep 2 2011, 12:41 AM Seruphim Sep 2 2011, 12:35 AM wait, why does Trunks' shutting down 17 and 18 mean that there must be a timeline where Trunks is not present at the Cell Games? I'm referring to the line that starts with 'the truth is, trunks...' Because before returning to tell the Z Fighters of Timeline 4 that he deactivated the Androids (and later fight in the Cell Games) Cell from that timeline ambushed him, since this was a Pre-Rosat Trunks he had no chances to defeat Imperfect Cell and he was killed. but how do we know Cell ambushed him then? Or was it confirmed by AT that there was a 4th timeline and he gave this explanation or something? Cause otherwise it just seems speculative.. In episode 143 Cell tells Kamiccolo how did he came from his time, he ambushed Trunks who was returning to that time, and Trunks wasnt a MSSJ, he was still an Unmastered SSJ, this means that he deactivated the Androids, since at that point he was unable to beat them. Cell told Kamiccolo that he went back in time because he couldnt find the Androids. Ah ah! I think I get it now okay so.. T-1 is ours. T-1 Cell and Trunks are still babies. T-2 is future Trunks' timeline where Goku dies. T-3 is also future Trunks' time, but instead of killing Cell like he does in T-2 at the end of the Cell saga, he dies because he went back early to defeat the androids and therefore was not prepared. So that means T-3 and T4 are related with the same history of Goku not being alive and such. T-4 is the timeline branching from T-1 where Trunks did come back, thus saving Goku, but left early to go kill the androids with the device but was killed by T-3 Cell who stole the time machine and went to T-1 .... do I have that right? I felt like I went in a circle near the end.



J-Smack	Sep 2 2011, 06:42 AM Post #36
Posts: 1,328 Group: Member Member #5,101 Joined: August 5, 2010 Favourite Anime Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball	I don't understand why T-4 Trunks had the timeline programmed for two years before Goku's arrival on Earth. It was said that that spaceship had been around for two years before T-2 Trunks arrived. T-4 Trunks was supposedly going back in time to inform everyone that he figured out a way to stop the androids...no one even knows about the androids at this time.
	darkwarrior has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it. Y2J Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****. ObsessiveFanGirl I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. Now, there's an idea.


NeoSSayajin	Sep 2 2011, 09:43 AM Post #37
Posts: 1,085 Group: Member Member #5,734 Joined: February 15, 2011 Country Argentina What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	J-Smack Sep 2 2011, 06:42 AM I don't understand why T-4 Trunks had the timeline programmed for two years before Goku's arrival on Earth. It was said that that spaceship had been around for two years before T-2 Trunks arrived. T-4 Trunks was supposedly going back in time to inform everyone that he figured out a way to stop the androids...no one even knows about the androids at this time. I dont remember in the manga, but in the anime flashback of Cell he ambushes Trunks when he was entering the Time Machine, maybe it was a miscalcullation due to Trunks not adjusting the controls.



NeoSSayajin	Sep 2 2011, 09:46 AM Post #38
Posts: 1,085 Group: Member Member #5,734 Joined: February 15, 2011 Country Argentina What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	By the re-reading of that page that Kamikaze posted, there is a particularity, why there is a grown up Cell in Timeline 4? If there was a Cell Games in Age 767 then that Cell had to come from some other timeline, since that time Cell at Age 767 was still a cocoon. That makes me think that maybe in Timeline 4 there was no Cell coming from the future, in the matter of fact, maybe there wasnt any Cell, only Androids 17 and 18, in this timeline could fit perfectly the movie Super Android 13!. @Seruphim, yes, thats much pretty correct. The only mistake is that Goku dies in Timelines 2 and 3, in T1 and T4 he is saved by the heart medicine. Edited by NeoSSayajin, Sep 2 2011, 10:11 AM.



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